In this episode Stephen speaks with Doreya Karim, the Managing Director of the BioGeometry Energy Systems Ltd. Doreya explains what BioGeometry is, and how it can be used to improve your home to create a healthier space to live when looking at subtle earth energies. This is a fun and really interesting talk you won’t want to miss.
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Episode number 18, BioGeometry. Hello everyone. And welcome to the latest episode of Your Healthy House. And today I am super honored and super excited to have a colleague and a friend of mine. Doreya Karim here with me. Doreya is the Managing Director of the BioGeometry Energy Systems limited. www.biogeometry.com That’s a mouthful . We’re going to break it all down, get into this and talk with Doreya about what BioGeometry is and how you can use it within your own home. So welcome, Doreya. Thank you for being here.
Thank you for having me.
Well , first off, let’s just dive right in. Yeah, BioGeometry, what is it?
So we, a lot of times we call it , the , energy of shapes and the subtle energy of shapes and how we can actually relate that in. So, I mean, obviously we’re, we’re going to be touching upon building biology a little bit here, so you can relate that into things such as designing a home to get the healthiest possible environment. And so if I was to break it down , , bio is a life, geo earth , and metric measurement. So it really deals with measuring that life force energy that’s, that’s found in the earth and how we can interact with that amplify that through a design language.
All right. So now when we’re talking about earth energies, one of the more common , approaches, I guess, that people may be more familiar with would be like d owsing, where someone’s trying to find the earth energies, the differences in where water veins run. Are we talking about similar stuff
In a way? Yes. And in another way, no. So when we look at , , BioGeometry, we say it’s, it’s based on what we call the physics of quality and the physics of quality. Basically what we do is when we look at energy interactions. So if anybody listening is familiar with any types of vibrational sciences or approaches or Chinese medicine , t hey’re, they might be aware of some types of what we would call energy s cales, energy scales, such as yin and yang energy scales, such as even color s cales for things like color therapy, energy
For different frequencies, different vibrations,
Energy scales of sound. So basically to us, that’s categorizing energy into resonant effects. And so it’s a little bit different in that when we do use pendular instrents, but our tools are actually calibrated to pick up or enter into resonance with a specific energy, if you want to , you know, if we want to think of it as a specific frequency, but , , we go a little bit beyond frequency where we say it’s a little bit of it’s a specific quality , because when we’re dealing with frequency and shapes , , you know, you can have a wave that has the same frequency, but a different wave shape, even things like a sign wave with the same frequency as a triangle wave, but we pick up different on the body. So that’s why I’m just saying quality. Okay. And sorry, go ahead.
It’s okay. It’s okay. So , so you mentioned like light, light, light frequencies sound frequencies. So we have , , pleasing frequencies for sound , obviously , , and we have a displeasing , frequencies for sound , for me that’s , modern , top 40 country music, very displeasing zone. , but, but we have frequencies , , you know, a cello resonating at a, at a very, a frequency internal to the body and that creates , a sense of harmony , choral music , , stuff like that. So there’s frequencies that our bodies , thrive, benefit from, I’m just trying to put a parallel. So now you’re saying that we can take those frequencies and they actually have qualities to them.
Yeah. And I guess I would interchange just the idea of quality to energy effect and, you know , that actually brings us to , , you know, a lot of times when we talk about energy, it’s , , it’s funny cause people aren’t really sure what we’re talking about, even though word energy, you know, we use it all the time. We don’t know what we mean. And that’s the definition that we use in by geometry, the ability to produce an effect. So that’s what we do. We actually have a vibrational scale. So we have different types of interest instrents. Some of them are actually , calibrated using different angles. So those angles, I mean, there are instrents out there that you’ll actually see calibrated to wavelengths. We do it with angles because we found that really the way that you can define the quality of wave is that angle of incidents . So as we change different angles, we can measure different qualities. And so when we talk about things like water dowsing and , and earth energy, the difference between us and other systems is that with a dowser they’re specifically trained to interact with the subconscious, with our system of physical registries . Yeah . It used to be called micro vibrational physics by those who developed it. it was, it’s a French system with that. What we’re actually doing is picking up energy effects by calibrating our, our , instrent to specific angles or specific qualities. And so it, you know, water dowsing, I would say a similar in the sense that what we try to do when we measure is we try to get our body or our instrent to be very focused on picking up one thing. And so we’re dousing it’s, it is , it’s, it’s a mix between both because with water dousing , your body is, I dunno , I want us to very high number. I want to say 70% water. And so you’re actually a vibrational sample of water. And so that’s why water doesn’t has its feet a little bit in both. But then when we go into other types of mental housing that are dealing with the subconscious that’s to be differentiated by what we do from what we, and then,
So let me see if I got an , a straight, so it was so when people are dowsing and I’m not trying to beat this to death, cause I know there’s a, there’s a huge difference here, but I just want to , for clarity, when the dowsing , , they are using their body and whatever instrument, be it a , you know, forks or tuning forks or a pendulum , , I learned to dowse from a friend of my dad’s who used a pair of pliers , , as a kid and I was so amazed, but it was, but that’s all he could dowse with. He couldn’t dowse it with rods or anything else or sticks. So that was his tuning was his , was to be able to use the pliers. And so he was amplifying basically his own , , resonance, but you’re saying with BioGeometry that the , that we’re actually tuning, we’re actually calibrating the tool, not, not to us, but to what you’re looking for. Is that more accurate ?
Yeah, exactly. So with water dowsing, it’s actually really easy because what you’re looking for, there’s you become a vibrational sample of easily because your body has so much water, but if we, if we break down the term that we use, radiathesia it basically means sensitivity to radiation. Right, right. It’s easier .
Okay. Yep .
And so that’s what we’re doing. So then when, you know , circle back around and we talk about earth energies, well, there’s different types of earth energies that we can actually change our sensitivity of radiation to , by using our instrument so that we’re able to pick them up, know where they are. And then after that we can use by geometry principles to harmonize them.
Okay. So similarly, we have buildings that humans are drawn to , , that have , , you know, incredible experiences in whether it be, you know, cathedrals in Europe or temples in Asia or , , you know, where you are in Egypt and the pyramids and some of those places. And there’s also outdoor places, whether it be like, you know, Uluru, Ayer’s rock and in Australia or places of, of great physical GL geological significance that people are drawn to Stonehenge. , I don’t think it’s necessarily just the, just the , the stones, but the space. And so that frequency, that there’s some sort of thing that we’re drawn to at those places that there’s some sort of beneficial. , I think there’s places that are , , negative energies out there to both buildings and, you know, people where we don’t want to be in . So is this, am I, am I following along or are these sort of places of potential health
You’re on the perfect path? And the reason I say the perfect path is you’re actually coming to the next step. So , , if we have these tools where there’s, you know, certain types of we’re able to, I would say, move the body when we talk about that word resonance as well, what do we mean? Kind of that information exchange our information exchange with the environment. So if I have tools that really open up my energy system to pick up very specific, subtle energies in order and kind of fine tune on specific ones and leave out all the rest. And I have things like a qualitative scale where we can , , group energy into energy effects. So this was actually where BioGeometry started. And then my father who founded BioGeometry, he , , when he, he received, you know, there’s a series of serendipitous events, but he received a lot of this , , or, or the whole body of work of French radiathesia or that micro vibrational physics and was told , , it was an ancient Egypt, not an ancient Egyptian features . Who’s gonna, who’s going to revive the science. And that was going to add to that. And he has a love for ancient Egypt as well, right ? Your dad’s old, but not that old, he’s not ancient. And for anybody , , no, not ancient Egyptian, but looking at an Egyptian. And even that, like I said, that contact with ancient Egypt , , that would be an Egyptian, her vibes, this science, and he was an architect or is an architect. And , with specializing in , tourist planning. And he has a lot of understanding of ancient Egypt and the history of architecture. And so when he received this, so let’s say now we’re at the point where you can measure energies. You can , understand that there’s energy exchanges with the body and we’re , we’re measuring these energies. Okay. So what’s our goal. And our goal is actually we look at these places in history and what brought him to this was that from that historical perspective, if you look at sacred sites, beyond them being related to any kind of religion or spiritual belief, if we look in history, we see that as civilizations change, there’s some sites and some sacred areas in the world where we actually you’ll, you’ll find a temple and then you’ll dig below and you’ll find another temple and you’ll dig another temple. Or, you know,
So this year , like in Europe, that was a lot of the major important cathedrals Christian cathedrals were built on top of , what we would inappropriately call pagan , , original buildings and, and sacred sites, for sure. It’s a huge issue. And it’s done all over the world. Absolutely.
Exactly. And then if we look at now, what happens in those areas? So not only did civilizations always gravitate and grow out of these areas, these are areas where we also find , , things such as different types of healing. You know , if you look at different and you were just talking about cathedrals, you know, if you go to France, you go to Chatres, you’ll see a lot of different examples of different, you’ll hear about different miracles in these locations. and so now it was looking at these sites and, and even when we look at an even more important step , we find that animals are able to pick up this energy quality. So it’s, it’s , you know, animals would go there for healing or even if we look at how they would find them. , so one of the places , one of the sites , in Egypt, the Citadel is famous for choosing the location, or at least the story I’ve been told is that the way that they chose the location was , , that they would hang pieces of meat all around Cairo. And then they would see where that meat’s the freshest, the longest, and then they would choose that as their location to build. So I know that they did this , I know that this was traditionally done in many different places. It’s just the Citadel, like I’m saying this was told by a guide. I don’t want to go on a tour in Egypt, but it was one example. And I can tell you many more. I mean, and I also, these were different, different
Ways of divination to find out the earth energies. And there was different , ways to do that in different traditions and cultures, you would , , put cows on a field. you would slaughter a cow check i ts , livers and spleens. You would dig a hole and put water in it to see how the water, settled out. Or you would put a Lotus leaf in a water in India to, i n a hole, , t o see how it, it, , h ow it, which way it ‘s s pun clockwise or counterclockwise. So th ere a ll these different approaches that when we look at the earth energies and we look at these ki nd o f tactics that they actually from a science perspective did show us some beneficial things without all the fancy digital gadgets we have today.
Exactly. And so that actually brings us to the birth of BioGeometry because, you know, if you’re able to measure energy, what kind of environments do you want to create? And, my father being an architect, he was , not, I would say he wasn’t approaching it as a physician and he didn’t want to approach things as a physician simply because if we look at alternative medicine, there is so much , there, no, you don’t need to rebuild into how to basically analyze the body and treat it, you know, look at something like traditional Chinese medicine, thousands and thousands of years of information. Right.
But only recently we realized that there’s actually a layer of connective tissue underneath our skin. And that’s where the Chi energy actually flows. And now that science has figured that out Chinese medicine is cool and acceptable despite working for a couple of thousand years.
Yeah. And there’ll be, I mean , they’ll doing all of these experiments. I’ve heard of ones where they’ve put like , , they’ll inject like radioactive tracer or something, and then they’ll put it, if they, if they inject it randomly into , into the body, then it won’t, they won’t, it will go randomly. But if they inject it into something like a Meridian line, it’ll follow that and you can track that. So there’s , I think that was done with animals. So there’s stuff like that, you know , , more and more science is , correlating or correct, you know, basically starting to collaborate with , , with this type of approach. And so, but now going back, so like we said, those approaches aren’t there and they’re coming out and they’re doing a wonderful job. But when my father wanted to look at, especially being an architect is, what’s so amazing about these sites. Is that in , in, if we’re talking about alternative medicine or kind of , whatever, when you, when we go to a physician or a doctor or any kind of , most approaches today, they need to, I need to be able to analyze your body. I need to diagnose in order to be able to treat, but he didn’t want to have to diagnose. So what came, especially being an architect, because if you think about that logically, if we start to develop, so if you think of , you know, color therapy, we need to actually know what color your body needs, because technically, you know, if you’re, if an organ is, has an under function and you give it the wrong vibration, you can, push it more towards going more towards the under function rather than activating it. So he said, but we can’t develop a science based on, especially for talking about a design language where you know, this room would be good for somebody in this room, wouldn’t be good for somebody, or there’d be a dosage effect. So looking at sacred power spots, these are the one spot where your body starts going. We call it a centering effect because your body enters the state of homeostasis or what’s underactive goes towards , it gets activated and what’s at what’s overactive kind of calms down. And so we call it a centering effect because it doesn’t have dosage and it’s beneficial to everybody by geometry. It was actually finding out what that energy quality is that we find at the center of power spots. And we actually find at the center of all shapes and we called it the BG3 energy quality because you measure it through three different vibrations together.
Right. And we do this scientifically instead of hanging, you know, slabs of meat around there to try to figure out whether that’s the spot.
Exactly. And it relates , it relates a lot to , you know, when we talk about Building Biology and why, when we talk about building biology, you like to use kind of nature as our measuring stick, right? So nature nature is kind of the gold standard. So we’ve, you know, we have this approach when it comes to natural materials and we have this approach when it comes to things like air quality and even comparing the indoor and outdoor to get an idea of how, you know, how we’re living in our home, but with, by dormitory, it’s an addition in terms of now looking at the body, subtle energy exchange with the environment and how we can now, same thing using nature as our gold standard. But what are we looking at? We’re looking at, you know, amplifying that energy quality that we find in the areas that are the most centering to us in our natural environments.
Understood. And this is, and this is great. You brought up Building Biology and those listening to the podcast know I’ve done a couple episodes on Building Biology and I am a Building Biologist as is Doreya and all her and this goes back actually some history is that , Helmut Ziehe, who started the Building Biology Institute in North America , was a dear friend , , of Doreya’s father, Abrahim, Karim. And the two of them saw this connection that we have to create healthy spaces, but were not doctors, we’re both architects. We need to look at the space and how to make those , , general, always working baseline positive health decisions for the built environment within Building Biology. So , looking at natural building materials, looking at passive strategies, looking at those k ind of approaches and Abrahim Karim doing the same thing, trying to find these, these positive, energies, earth energies. And when you put the two of those together, it creates a, a significantly healthier space. So these two lovely gentlemen ha d b een friends for decades and taught together and did workshops together in , in the way back days. So, t here’s a strong connection between Building Biology and BioGeometry and, , a nd that’s the reason an d t he history for it. So,, s o with this connection, this BG3 so that’s the, the calibrated energy that, that we ‘re t rying to achieve is that right?
Yeah. So that’s what we’re trying to even amplify and then measure the effects. So I think that’s the big thing is a lot of times when people think of something, you know, if , if they see a pendulum, they think, Oh, well that is basically subjective. Okay. So, I mean, there’s two things to that. First of all, we’ve worked on developing an objective qualitative scale within the physics of quality. So, like I said, again, based on specific calibrations, but then going further, one of the most important things that , , that, that people should be aware of is you can always measure the effects of these energy qualities, as long as you’re using any kind of device that measures the han body.
So we can measure the space and try to find that, that, that best ideal sacred space, energy BG3, but we can also use the han as a tool to see if we are in resonance with that energy, because we’re either standing on that awesome place or we’re not .
Yeah. So, I mean, they’ve, they’ve done brain tracer measurements where they show the effects of specific frequencies in the brain dropping specific , maybe related to that Schann resonance, whenever you’re on a negative line and it’s, and then we also show the opposite. Where would we have our research? Probably the most , , well-known research internationally is , , our work in Switzerland, where they installed , , cell towers and well, a cell tower in a town. And then , , after installing that one cell tower that suddenly the residents started complaining , , of a lot of different physical symptoms and a lot of different mental symptoms actually. And so my father, because he got his doctorate, his PhD in the technical school in Zurich, a few people know of his work and they asked him if he can come and , , install a solution on the tower and what that would look like and helping the people, because they were basically at the point where they were like, you know, we are going to take action against this tower , right. We’re going to get it dealt with here. And , , and so to, and that was actually done in collaboration. So the ones who, the building biology, the German Building Biology Institute was the one who was helping alongside in terms of the research. So it was an independent research , , study, and it was with the Swisscom , , that mobile telecom and the local government. And it was looking at all of the symptoms that the people are experiencing. And then , , after we installed by geometry solutions, the before and the after of not just the physical symptoms, but the emotional and mental effects. And it really also demonstrates, again, that idea that , , two things, like if we’re measuring the han body, then we can always see the effect of by geometry. So whether we’re using biofeedback devices and there were feedback devices there , they were using a quality of life scale. , and then the , the really , , you know, and a lot of times , , whenever we talk about this and we say a quality of life scales , some people might automatically , , think of also a certain level of , , subjectivity or a placebo, but what was really good is we got the same effect with the animals. We got the same effect with the plants
And they don’t do, they don’t do very well on those subjective surveys when asked for sure. So,
So we always laugh about this, but basically when somebody came and he said, Oh, this could be a placebo effect in the middle of a news , , kind of conference, then this woman stood up and she said , , our cows don’t speak Arabic. You know, my father did a , did a Ted talk and he called it, why is the cows smiling? Cause he said, it was basically, you know , giving us kind of giving us the answer to that question, but it began to show, it shows this concept of , , what amplifying that center in quality that BG3 could do to a community. Because we see , , just that we S we see the quality of life improving on every level that was tested from physical symptoms to emotional mental wellbeing .
Right. And we’re just rearranging the frequencies we’re , we’re adjusting so that we don’t have those, not, not necessarily potentially harmful, but , , adverse health frequencies and energies in the area. And that’s a large scale. You’re talking a village. This isn’t just like making my room feel awesome or , or my home, but this is, this is large scale. You’ve got a lot of real serious , , nobody they’re wearing tinfoil hats kind of approach, as far as, you know, Swiss telecom and, and, you know, Building Biologist research from the universities, which is government funded stuff. This is not , , this is not extreme, unusual. These are real solid science here. And, you know, BioGeometry made a difference, a measurable, quantifiable difference in that village.
Yeah. I mean, what are the things, you know, a lot of people , , you know , wonder why we’re not able, well, we did actually reproduce this in another town in Switzerland after, but why we’re not , , doing this in every single community out there, but the reason was that there, like you said, we actually were working with the local government and Swisscom who gave us access to the cell tower . So we got to actually install shapes on the intents . And so that’s one of the big reasons that we’re able to work on that large scale there . Not that we don’t have. I mean, we have , , , we , we do have a system where we have , , licensed , , practitioners who will do the same thing within the home environment. They will amplify that BG3 quality. They will work on the body’s energy exchange with it , but it will, once that environment is balanced, then the body’s energy exchange with all of those forms of environmental stress, we also find balance. But the big thing with , with Switzerland is that we actually got to work with the Swisscom engineers and we got to work with the local government. And I think one of the good things is that , , after seeing the effects, we, a lot of people who were not within Swisscom, who would not acknowledge that , , being electrosensitive is actually something that’s , , that exists. They acknowledged after the study,
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Let’s talk about the shapes. Now, you’re a BioGeometry, you know, is based on , , an architect and architects love tactile things. , and so talk to me about the shapes and, and just how that relates to energies.
Well, I mean, one of the things also is where to even get that concept of different shapes, having energy effects. Now, of course, one of the reasons I brought up ancient Egypt is because you have probably one of the most common shapes that people resonate with, which is the great pyramid. , most people who do meditations or something underneath pyramid structures, you know, they, the permanent structure itself, most of the time is actually copied wrong. So I should say that if anybody’s listening and go, though, she mentioned it and I met a proper angles . Yeah. So there are proper angles and the basis actually eight sided . So most people aren’t aware of that and that excited , , correction is super important, but to go back to shape. , so when, when my father was looking at these sacred sites, one of the things, when we look , we see that in sacred sites and these very powerful sites, you almost always have streams , , , specific streams crossing right underneath these sites. And it’s that crossing the actually creates that vortex of energy that we detect as that power spot. But then at the same time that my father was studying this, he came across other work from the German schools where they were more focused on that. They actually were talking about how stream crossings can create negative sites. And so we’re looking at that. And then he realized that there’s actually also a relationship, not just with the water quality of the stream crossings, but the angles, the streams cross that. And so it was around this , , and there is, you know, at that. So there was one of the first studies referring to that was , , by somebody called von Paul. And what he found is we look at these environments and look at cancer cases. And he found that her up 80% of the cancer clinic cases were clustered into 20% of the area. And then , , he repeated that in another town. So he did it in a town where the infants of cancer was the highest of cancer was the lowest, but basically we’re at this point where there’s two different types, there’s two schools or two ways of looking at energy effects , ones that are really positive and ones that are really negative. And then looking at understanding that certain stream crossings at specific angles would cause these effects. So as soon as you say the word angles, you’re basically in an architect’s playground. My fathers used to say, you know, the angles are my angels. And you know, a lot of times, it’s we forget when we talk about things such as , , shapes and colors and sounds that these are actually vibrational effects acting on the brain and they carry information. You know, it’s, we forget that our brain is this computer that’s actually put in this vibrational soup and produce our reality for us. And so as soon as he could start to measure that different angles in different shapes or having , , different effects on the body, which, which should make sense, because just like we can group different colors into different frequencies and different effects on the body, same thing with sounds, you can do the same thing with shapes. , he started to study and develop a design language of, and , you know, he would call it studying that forming process of nature. And what kind of forming process leads to these shapes with the centering quality? What leads to these shapes that don’t have the center and quality? How do I bring it back to that? And then one of the most interesting things that we find is as an architect, of course, when he started to measure the center in quality and locations, he said, well, where are they in shapes? And he found that they are at the center of every shape, including if we take the shape of the han body, we find that same quality existing. So it takes us down this understanding that our whole body is in constant information exchange with the environment. And by amplifying the centering quality within a shape within the body, within a location, we can get to that point where we get to, you know, I don’t like to use the word healing, but we get to the point where we’re in that optim energy exchange level within
Where the body can do what it needs to do on its own without not being under stress, right. Not being under stress. And so similarly, like I know my wife has done and I’ve done in the past, like using a Vega machine, which sends frequencies into the body from a health perspective to try to find whether or not certain medications , , supplements will actually help the body heal the body, whether they’re adverse , , or just whether , you know, I’ve done it with mold, you know, trying to see what sort of molds are in my body, from all the work I do and , and sort of sending that frequency of, of mold into my body and whether or not my body resonates with it or, or is adverse to it , , can tell you again, so like this can be done through a computer , , these kinds of frequencies put into, put into , , to hans to kind of just see what is, and isn’t beneficial to us. So this is like, I’m understanding,
We’re really interesting visual that if anybody goes on our site, you can check out and , , they’ll see, they’ll see a picture of site as well. , my brother who you , who, you know , , he was the one that was , , undertaking this study and it was , , it’s , I forgot , I believe it’s called, I forget the name of the machine itself, but basically I think it’s called the aura star and what has nothing to do with the aura , as we know, it, it was it’s that , , it’s a device that sends different frequencies to the body and different frequencies are related to every organ. And what it does is it picks up the noise, carried back onto that wave. And then basically the more noise you have, the more we see the body imbalanced. And with this device, it’s one of the nice visuals you can see as it will group the imbalances into colors , , with, you know , one color being overactive, one color being underactive. And then there’s this blue color. That’s basically the body going into this , , that perfect level. And so we used one of these devices. It was one of others that we used in , , in a study on an aircraft and looking at , , relieving the stress of the aircraft on the passengers and the pilots. And it was a day , , of, you know, 13 or 14, or even more basically takeoffs and landings with the plane and then see the pilot before. And you see all of these organs kind of this , this disc resonance with all of these colors. And then you see the after, and it’s this perfect clear blue color where we’re not picking up any of that noise or any of that disturbance anymore.
That’s amazing. So we can, as hans, we can be in that, that BG3, that, that blue space, that sweet spot we can, we can be in that, right? Like that’s, that’s possible to live in that, to experience that can things, I dunno, items also also do that, like, like a building on the spot sort of does take that energy. Can, can items also take that energy?
So it definitely, I mean, buildings on the spot, they use specific laws to amplify , , that quality in there . So there’s specific shapes that are what we call energy and like they will amplify, they remit, and those are normally placed on those spots. But , , when we look at, and that’s actually the goal of by geometry, right? So if we come in and we talk about some of the things that we’ve, we work on a lot of times, you know, our work is concerned with electromagnetic, radiation and earth, energies of neuropathic stress. I mean, one thing that most people don’t realize is that those two things are in resonance. It’s easy for the, the grid lines to carry any of that environmental stress that we’re adding in the form of electromagnetic radiation onto , , onto the energy lines themselves. So there’s this constant energy interaction that we’re always working with and balancing, but now we come back and we talk about if we’re able to actually, I mean, let’s talk about just an electromagnetic wave . If we can shape the wave, even keep the frequency the same and work on the amplitude, then we can actually not have to add anything to it. We’ve actually, we can design that from the start so that it’s not creating stress to the body. And so we can also do it with everyday objects, so we can do it with things such as, you know, that’s one of the goals of by geometry is what if our everyday objects could be , , taking into account or tested on han health. But then when we come to the subtle energy of the environment, we have to talk about this multi-dimensional level of han health. And so if you, if you understand that by geometry design language and you’re designing a mug, you can design that mugs when that mug is, is making you, is actually interacting with you in a healthy way.
Okay, cool. That’s wow. So I have a question from a colleague and a friend wanted me to ask this. So if that’s the case, does that mean that is pumpkin pie full of BG3?
Who’s asking that.
And is that why you refuse to share it? ,
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That was an inside joke. Everybody, I don’t even understand it. That’s definitely from between Doreya and the dear friend of both of ours who thought she’d be funny and send that along to me. , so, so when we’re talking about , , you were talking about like on the cathedrals in the architecture, that’s definitely like a real thing when we look some of these sacred buildings, mostly, but not all of them using , , what’s referred to as sacred geometry. And I should do a podcast on that, but it’s really looking at using mathematical universal mathematical constants, the golden ratio, phi, pi , , not pumpkin, but , , magical pie and putting all of these 112 and the in Asian cultures, remarkable universal numbers.
So one of the things, when you talk about sacred geometry, it’s very similar to, BioGeometry in the sense that a sacred geometry acknowledges what we call the sacred quality of quantity. Oh, the one difference I would say is that when we’re not the one difference, but in sacred geometry, there’s two things. One is that sometimes when you’re dealing with the sacred quality and quantity , , versus in , BioGeometry, you’re you have the goal of using quantity or angles or shapes to get that our Monya , we do three amplification or connection and being able to pick up that effect . And then also, and BioGeometry, actually, we can measure the effect of that golden ratio, but more than just that one to 1.6, or we go, we have more proportions that you can work with. So we also work with one-to-one 0.91 to 2.8. And so we like to think of it as you know, that you’re dealing with all of these nbers as a symphony. And , and we can, you know, you’re, you’re playing around with all of the notes, so we’re not, you’re not working with one quantity, we’re working with many.
That makes sense. So let’s talk about , , BioGeometry in people’s homes, you know, what, how would that work? What does that look like? How can people, you know, use or, or think about bio geometry in their own homes?
I mean, we do have a product where, where we call it the home kit . And that’s also because when we looked at, I mean, a lot of, a lot of my geometry , , products that we have on our site for anybody that checks it out. One of the things that’s a little bit different about BioGeometry from, I would guess other companies out there is that we never set out in the beginning to create a product. What happened is that by, so the Hamburg project, for example, showed up in the news and you know, you can see it on. Also, if you go to our YouTube channel, you can see the Swiss television talking about what happened, talking about the residents and their experiences. And then so people would then call in and say, so how can we do this in our home ? And we didn’t have an answer to that. And actually the same thing in Egypt where we had, we were part of a hepatitis C study and in , , it was in the us how university here in the medical department. And it was a comparative hepatitis C study for all those solutions out there. And then the head of the study or the head of the medical department went up on TV and said, so we’re seeing these effects of by geometry. We were actually getting 90% and normalizing liver enzymes. And again, you know, people would call us up and say so, and we didn’t have , , any products that address this. So we do have products in terms of , , we have, what’s called the bio signatures pendant, and that’s for working on the body , subtle energy organ functions. And then the home kit that works on the environment and the home kit is actually there’s shapes that are very similar to the ones that we used in the Swiss project that you find engraved in this cube, these attachments that you actually place on the electricity and the water. And then those who are really , , interested. We also have, you can go through a whole educational program where you can have , , a foundation level and that there’s , so there’s two levels of training. The first two , , you know, I , I teach myself with other fellow instructors and then there’s the final , , level where you can actually continue to get licensed to go into people’s homes and not just , , correct all of these disturbances. And that, that final levels with who I mentioned earlier is actually the head of that as my, my brother , , cited , who we , we mentioned earlier and in the beginning of the podcast. So he’ll guide you into not just correcting disturbances, but really amplifying the beneficial energy that we find in the home in order to achieve , , a completely centered environment. I think this is important because a lot of people don’t realize that just by solving problems, it doesn’t mean you’re getting a beneficial environment or just by solving problems. That doesn’t mean you’re getting a healthy body. And so this is also what’s , , you know, what we always try to ,
Because it’s going to just take you back to neutral. You don’t want to be in neutral. You wouldn’t want to go from negative to neutral, from neutral to positive. It’s the idea that, you know, certainly in thinking just about , , building energy, we want to build new homes to net zero. So that there’s zero , , , energy so that you’re not, you know, it’s not costing you money that you’re producing all you’re using. But in fact, when we think about from a building biology, from a planetary perspective, if we are positive , , producers of energy, we’re actually adding to that. We’re an analogy. It’s just what popped in my head. But the idea is we want to bring our health, not from negative to neutral, but from negative to neutral, to, to a positive place.
Exactly. And then how do we maintain that? And so that’s where it comes down to, like I said, this, going back to that home environment or the body environment, if we’re actually able to, so amplify this energy quality that does take care of a lot of problems. And then we go in and we actually verify that it’s taking care of these environmental disturbances. And then if not, then we go in and we actually amplify more , or we add specific corrections. But what does that allow for us is, is we talk about the body, always being an energy exchange and what we’re actually our goal is for a solution that helps you maintain constant centered energy exchange with the environment, because that’s going to be the only way to maintain a healthy home and maintain a healthy body. Because other than that, there’s too many factors when we talk about the environment that are changing all of the time. And so our main goal,
Right? And so on the site , , which we’ll have links in the transcript and everything on the website. So , , be sure to check those out. , but you can just give it, what is a website right now?
That’s pretty straightforward . www.Biogeometry.com, but for those who just want to learn more, maybe they don’t want to be practitioners. Maybe they just want to understand because you know , they’re interested. I’m just curious. So there’s some videos , some , some free information on the website, is that correct? Or no, or YouTube videos?
Yeah, there is. There’s a, YouTube is a really good resource. , and then if they just searched BioGeometry, they’ll find, I think it’s just www.youtube .com/ biogeometry There’s books. So my father wrote two books. One’s called Back to a future for mankind. One is called by BioGeometry Signatures. , the first deals more with the science and then the second deals more with actually shapes related to the body organs and how we can work with the shape of the body itself too . And what shapes we can use that will naturally resonate with shapes that exist within our body to help , , amplify again, that environmental energy exchange, that centered energy exchange.
Right. Okay. And so people can , , BioGeometers can comment come into someone’s home and, and take these calibrated measurements and , and make suggestions for adjustments , to try to improve energy, th ese s ubtle energies, subtle earth energies within people’s homes. Now you can also do this, , r emotely to a degree as well. Is that correct?
Yeah. I mean, to a certain extent in the sense that , when we talk about different, when we talk about , analyzing somebody’s energy, if we look at a photo, or even if we look at somebody speaking and we try to pick up , , their vibration, we can pick up some, some vibrational effects using their photo, which has their energy or using something. Like I said, if you’re speaking as well , , I can calibrate your wavelength and then see what’s, you know, different types of energy effects. So on a, on a land or something, we are able to use a photo of the land . Not a map actually has to be a photo of the site to get an indication of what’s going on in the site, but we do always recommend , , if it’s, we do always recommend with , you know, if BioGeometry home practitioner will always go to the house,
Right. There’s always the same thing as trying to do virtual Building Biology, healthy house inspections. Yeah. I can get a bunch of stuff and I’m not going to get everything that’s.
Yeah . Are you going to mail your client all of your tools and it takes something, you know, I guess yeah. You know, you would, they , they would give you an indication that can do some measurements. You can see what’s going on even, well , you know, specifically you, you can just look at a house and you’d be able to kind of tell, especially we’re just talking about passive , climate solutions and just looking at a house from far, we could be able to tell what if it’s, if it’s taking into account some of these solutions o r not,
For sure, for sure. Now you actually , , have actually helped me with my house. , we did a major renovation of five years ago , , on our house and a major addition. And , , I did send you photos and drawings and , you were able at as best as possible from a distance, , to, , look over my home and make some recommendations on how to ensure from a BioGeometry perspective that my house was in a decent shape. And, too, because you were doing a renovation
And whenever there’s a renovation, it actually allows us to tweak certain shapes. Right . And so that then , that is easier, not easier. But then when we look at that remotely, it’s, we can actually , , versus kind of where the environment you’re dealing with so many factors, but with the design of a home , it’s much easier to isolate that design later on. We actually have to go and see the effect of the design, or we even , look at that design and how it interacts with the kind of land energy, the earth energies. But, but whenever we’re working with design p rinciples, those, we always start remotely working with architectural p lants. R ight. Right.
And , , at some point there’s still going to be the Building Biology, BioGeometry, get together here in my little house, but , not until the p andemic’s over that’s for sure. Y eah.
No for sure. We’re going to make that happen.
So we’re the few minutes kind of , left. We’ve been chatting for about an hour here. What am I missing? What are the important details, the take home messages that , that you think people people need to hear?
you know, I think one of the great things is that when we’re working on a vibrational level is just when we talk about qualitative versus quantitative, the qualitative approach is it , it marries the quantitative approach. You know, it’s not one or the other. And so , we try as much as possible to apply every healthy principle that we can think of physically. And then we also try to apply every healthy principle that we can think of on that subtle energy level to give you that, that best environment. And that’s just important for, I guess, everybody, to , to think of out there that one of the things that building biology also does is we take back the han being into account and it’s by geometry does the same thing. It takes back the han being into account and uses, you know, man’s interaction with their environment as a type of scale of measurement. And we’ve seen that , you know, hopefully I don’t want to say that we want to move into creating that your home is, is a form of preventative medicine. I don’t like to say that this differently , but we have shown in studies where we actually get designed students and they will test the effect of the homes or the spaces that think designed with the medical department. And we’re seeing such profound results that, you know, our work, all of our work becomes so important. Like we’ve seen , we’ve tested , shapes o r room and against things like serotonin levels and depressed mice. , they’ve done things such as shapes on, designing a home and placing W i-Fi i nside a nd, a nd different types of stressful activities, , such as, you know, how often mice urinate or how often they will be under stress, you know, there’s specific experiments they do with that. And we can see that we’re able to relieve that even melatonin levels. So I think this is just so important for not just by geometry, but for everybody to realize how much there’s this concept of environmental harmony and what it can do to our health.
That’s amazing. I think, you know, that that health positive home is, is something I’m passionate about and just wanting people to have a home that can actually be that not negative, not neutral, but ideally a healthy , positive home. And I think there are so many different , approaches to it in so many ways to reach it. And each of these pieces such as bio geometry, we’ll, we’ll tweak it, we’ll adjust it , , and, and definitely improve it Doreya. , you’re a friend and a colleague and it was absolutely lovely chatting with you today. Doreya is the Managing Director of the BioGeometry Energy Systems. , and you can check out everything they’re doing on BioGeometry at www.biogeometry.com check out their YouTube videos. And again, Doreya, thank you so very much for being with me today.
Thank you for having me, like you said, it was a chat with a friend and a colleague
For sure. And please everyone pay attention , , Doreya and I are hoping to have a zoom webinar coming up in the very near future. , this is October, 2020. If , you’re listening , live c heck o ut, , www.biogeometry.com , check out my website, www.yourhealthyhouse.ca. I’ll try to post some information and Doreya and I can put together t hese zoom webinar to compare looking at, BioGeometry and Building Biology. So diving into a little more comparative, where people will be able to interact and ask questions. So please stay tuned for more for that. And again, thank you Doreya and thank you everyone for listening.
Yeah. I’m looking forward to our webinar .
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